am6 tuning - Page 2

lilplaya_bm · 18-07-2005, 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokin

Says that they did 75 mph on a 50cc. That's fast for a 50.
I bet if that bike they were using wasn't so damn heay they could get up to a much higher speed.

mk pr2 products are very nice and so are siminini but krd 80cc stroker would be my first choice with stroker crank,mkpr2 pipe or krd, with 24mm makuni..

Chaps_Zip · 18-07-2005, 07:47

no its not PR2 its jus normal PR stuff. ive never seen anyone with a simonini stroker kit but ive done LOTS and LOTS or research into the AM6 engine. All i kno is that i would go with PR over anything else, second i would go with Malossi 50mm, then third a TP75 kit. i wouldnt even try anything else...well i would run the old malossi 68cc kit. thats it. if its a race bike id go with a 28 keihin if its a road bike id probably get the malossi 50mm double ring and a 24 flatslide. the only reason i say PR is the best is because ive seen the dynos and can get anyone the dynos of anything they want for the AM6 engine. i wouldnt even bother with KRD i mean mototek uses it but i dont like the stuff at all, they seem a little dodgey if u ask me. and the malossi inner rotor suposedly runs better than the mvt and pvl inner rotors too, ill have to look for the data on that tho. if u guys need anything just let me kno..ill hook u up

riejurs1 · 18-07-2005, 21:22

would 90cc cylinder not give more horsepower?

this I do not understand!

what power will the simoni90 give compared to the MK PR (cc?), MHR 80 or the TP75?

it would be nice if someone tested them all on a dyno

Chaps_Zip · 18-07-2005, 23:29

well ive never seen a simonini 90 kit so i cant give you a dyno for it. but i dont think it will push out over 20hp. i might be wrong but i honestly dont think so. i kno people think 90cc is better than 77cc or 88cc but with the pro race and 44mm crank you wont be disapointed.
if u want to see the dyno of the stroker pro race vs. stock look at:
http://www.scooterbase.net/pics/22341/rs50.jpg

Browni · 19-07-2005, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaps_Zip

well ive never seen a simonini 90 kit so i cant give you a dyno for it. but i dont think it will push out over 20hp. i might be wrong but i honestly dont think so. i kno people think 90cc is better than 77cc or 88cc but with the pro race and 44mm crank you wont be disapointed.
if u want to see the dyno of the stroker pro race vs. stock look at:
http://www.scooterbase.net/pics/22341/rs50.jpg

You can't compensate /or it's very hard/ that 90 cc with high reving 70-80 cc, long stroke big piston etc..

If I now well, the 90 cc Simonini can easily produce 25-27 hp! And you can tune that cylinder if you want!!

Chaps_Zip · 19-07-2005, 01:02

27hp with wat else on it? if i think about it i think 20hp+ is posible with this kit but i dont kno about 27hp...if i see the dyno ill believe it. wats the wear like with these kits? its kinda cheap for a kit, crank, piston (everything) for just 343 euros...id still go with PR tho. u van have fun with this kit.

Browni · 20-07-2005, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaps_Zip

27hp with wat else on it? if i think about it i think 20hp+ is posible with this kit but i dont kno about 27hp...if i see the dyno ill believe it. wats the wear like with these kits? its kinda cheap for a kit, crank, piston (everything) for just 343 euros...id still go with PR tho. u van have fun with this kit.

You can belive it or not, this is very simple!

So if it's not as expensive as the Malossi or Pro Race maybe this shit? This is an universalization!!

lilplaya_bm · 20-07-2005, 17:18

a local friend of mine had mk pr cil and special pipe and crank in his bike with 21 and hebo readcage and it ran really nice...stock sprockets he was hit 125kph orso...friend with mhr80 was a little faster with mhr crank,polini pipe,hebo readcage ,21mm,and cluth springs...and aanother guy with krd 80,krd crank,mkpr pipe,24mm, clutch springs and tall sprockets was hittin around 130kph but picking up way faster... thats why i would take krd over mkpr...although i have never seen siminini cil for am6 engine i wouldnt pick it because i have seen the minarelli and honda engine cils and they wear very fast and when tuning it chips easily...

lilplaya_bm · 20-07-2005, 17:20

and i extremely doubt 27hp as well, there isnt a chance in hell...luckily get 20..maybe 17 to 18 untuned....i dont like siminini cils....

Chaps_Zip · 20-07-2005, 21:28

well the 20hp was hard to get for this guy away. like he spent hours tuning it...trying everykit there is and so thats why i say go with MK PR. i know 130kmh is fast here for like a kitted up 50 but he gets 100mph out of his bike...so if i had an rs50 and put alot of money into it i would be expectin at least 140 pushin 150kmh. but like he has everything tuned, alot of stuff lightened and basically went all out on the bike. if i had an am6 in bermy i would send it to him and say do watever it takes! but $$$...hes spent alot on the bike too prolly way more than we ever would. but ya..i would take Pro Race then malossi..i aint ever seen a KRD 80 run so i dunno bout it.

Rieju54 · 01-09-2008, 14:20

Hi there, i have a rieju rs2 matrix but it was very slow on take off and it occasionally stalled, i changed the filter back to standard but its now not firing up and running, does anybody know what i could do? thanx

Mr.Aerox · 01-09-2008, 21:02

why don't you post a new thread instead of opening a 3 year old thread?

01-09-2008, 14:20	#41 (permalink)
Rieju54 Registered User	struggle starting Hi there, i have a rieju rs2 matrix but it was very slow on take off and it occasionally stalled, i changed the filter back to standard but its now not firing up and running, does anybody know what i could do? thanx

18-07-2005, 07:47	#32 (permalink)
Chaps_Zip By: Polini	no its not PR2 its jus normal PR stuff. ive never seen anyone with a simonini stroker kit but ive done LOTS and LOTS or research into the AM6 engine. All i kno is that i would go with PR over anything else, second i would go with Malossi 50mm, then third a TP75 kit. i wouldnt even try anything else...well i would run the old malossi 68cc kit. thats it. if its a race bike id go with a 28 keihin if its a road bike id probably get the malossi 50mm double ring and a 24 flatslide. the only reason i say PR is the best is because ive seen the dynos and can get anyone the dynos of anything they want for the AM6 engine. i wouldnt even bother with KRD i mean mototek uses it but i dont like the stuff at all, they seem a little dodgey if u ask me. and the malossi inner rotor suposedly runs better than the mvt and pvl inner rotors too, ill have to look for the data on that tho. if u guys need anything just let me kno..ill hook u up

18-07-2005, 21:22	#33 (permalink)
riejurs1 Registered User	would 90cc cylinder not give more horsepower? this I do not understand! what power will the simoni90 give compared to the MK PR (cc?), MHR 80 or the TP75? it would be nice if someone tested them all on a dyno

18-07-2005, 23:29	#34 (permalink)
Chaps_Zip By: Polini	well ive never seen a simonini 90 kit so i cant give you a dyno for it. but i dont think it will push out over 20hp. i might be wrong but i honestly dont think so. i kno people think 90cc is better than 77cc or 88cc but with the pro race and 44mm crank you wont be disapointed. if u want to see the dyno of the stroker pro race vs. stock look at: http://www.scooterbase.net/pics/22341/rs50.jpg

19-07-2005, 01:02	#36 (permalink)
Chaps_Zip By: Polini	27hp with wat else on it? if i think about it i think 20hp+ is posible with this kit but i dont kno about 27hp...if i see the dyno ill believe it. wats the wear like with these kits? its kinda cheap for a kit, crank, piston (everything) for just 343 euros...id still go with PR tho. u van have fun with this kit.

20-07-2005, 17:18	#38 (permalink)
lilplaya_bm Registered User	a local friend of mine had mk pr cil and special pipe and crank in his bike with 21 and hebo readcage and it ran really nice...stock sprockets he was hit 125kph orso...friend with mhr80 was a little faster with mhr crank,polini pipe,hebo readcage ,21mm,and cluth springs...and aanother guy with krd 80,krd crank,mkpr pipe,24mm, clutch springs and tall sprockets was hittin around 130kph but picking up way faster... thats why i would take krd over mkpr...although i have never seen siminini cil for am6 engine i wouldnt pick it because i have seen the minarelli and honda engine cils and they wear very fast and when tuning it chips easily...

20-07-2005, 17:20	#39 (permalink)
lilplaya_bm Registered User	and i extremely doubt 27hp as well, there isnt a chance in hell...luckily get 20..maybe 17 to 18 untuned....i dont like siminini cils....

20-07-2005, 21:28	#40 (permalink)
Chaps_Zip By: Polini	well the 20hp was hard to get for this guy away. like he spent hours tuning it...trying everykit there is and so thats why i say go with MK PR. i know 130kmh is fast here for like a kitted up 50 but he gets 100mph out of his bike...so if i had an rs50 and put alot of money into it i would be expectin at least 140 pushin 150kmh. but like he has everything tuned, alot of stuff lightened and basically went all out on the bike. if i had an am6 in bermy i would send it to him and say do watever it takes! but $$$...hes spent alot on the bike too prolly way more than we ever would. but ya..i would take Pro Race then malossi..i aint ever seen a KRD 80 run so i dunno bout it.

01-09-2008, 21:02	#42 (permalink)
Mr.Aerox mhr r0x!	why don't you post a new thread instead of opening a 3 year old thread?