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Old 17-04-2009, 14:26   #61 (permalink)
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The best exhaust for your scooter is Pm tuning exhaust with him you can get a 2hp on your set up
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Old 17-04-2009, 17:09   #62 (permalink)
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The best exhaust for your scooter is Pm tuning exhaust with him you can get a 2hp on your set up
That is a big gain compared to a Full open Scorpion. Wich gives 2+ BHP compared to a Stock Scorpion.

In other terms. You will promise me 25+ BHP With a PM pipe on 209 ccm.



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Old 18-04-2009, 10:34   #63 (permalink)
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That is a big gain compared to a Full open Scorpion. Wich gives 2+ BHP compared to a Stock Scorpion.

In other terms. You will promise me 25+ BHP With a PM pipe on 209 ccm.
I can t promise anything but a branch(if you now on what I thinking) on a PM pipe is difrent then yours on scorpion and because of that I think that you can get beter performance with PM pipe and mybe more HP.

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Old 01-05-2009, 15:18   #64 (permalink)
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Finally. A new set up for the carb and vario and ignition.

It did 0 - 100 km/h at 9 sek. with a 19.7 HP setup and now it has been finetuned a bit. Different Torquedrive, intake funnel and sparkplug Has boosted the performance to a powerwheelie stage of another world.

Enjoy.



Some track images:



I hobe that I can bring it to some international meeting this year.
Drive safely out there.

hi mate great bike, what rollers and carb jets did you run with to that figure. and is your inlet standard with modifications or custom made?
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Old 15-05-2009, 17:51   #65 (permalink)
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To control the power and because the stock fork was bended, a new and better fork was put in the frame and a 4 piston brake kit was applied:


Just wanted to say absolutely amazing bike. I had a Gilera DNA that i did something similar to you too. 4 strokes are so much more expensive than 2 strokes. Im back with a 2T runner 180 now...

Anyway, i just wanted to know where you got the caliper and spacer from? i cant find a 4 pot caliper anywhere that fits the f36r forks, scooter attack have a stage 6 radial one but its for the standard 50cc forks so no good for the malossi ones.

Also the Grimeca one that the early forks came with looks horrible compared to that beauty.

http://www.sip-scootershop.com/Produ...r+MALOSSI.aspx

Did you need to custom make the bracket or did it come as a kit?

if so where did you get it from because I WANT 1!!!!

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Old 19-05-2009, 17:08   #66 (permalink)
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I have a new caliper for it now.
Is is a Stage6 in orange.

Some updated pics:



The bracket is a modified R-Setup and is more or less the same as the stage 6



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Old 26-05-2009, 17:34   #67 (permalink)
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Hi Velo,

nice project. if you want more power u can try a 278ccm bigbore kit (75mm bore / 63mm stroke)





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Old 27-05-2009, 09:11   #68 (permalink)
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woo that's nice!



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Old 27-05-2009, 11:53   #69 (permalink)
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I am interested in where there is to buy this 278ccm kit,and how much price?



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Old 27-05-2009, 12:18   #70 (permalink)
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Hi black-rider

its build by "Zweirad Kübler" in germany, you can buy it at www.sip-scootershop.com

278ccm Kit = 617,50€
244ccm Kit = 551,00€

It is a modified QUASAR crankshaft and some other parts from Piaggio (Vespa GTS300 / Gilera Nexus 300)



left = original Quasar crankshaft / right = modified Quasar Crankshaft



You can see more Pics here.

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Old 27-05-2009, 13:18   #71 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2009, 20:00   #72 (permalink)
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Looks quite impressive. And nice clean engine.
Cool Idea with the oil temp. Why haven't I thought of that?
But I think I wil stick to the 209 cc. It rews easily to the limiter.

I am planning on rews more than grunt.
Hoping to make a inner rotor for it.

P.S. New and updated photage:







It has allso gained some wheelie power again. New E16 filter boosted the performace to 22.67 instead of 21 bhp.

Looking forward to an other full open exhaust and maybe a rotor for it.



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Old 02-06-2009, 20:39   #73 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2009, 20:48   #74 (permalink)
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Hey Velo,

do you know the diameter of the Malossi valves? and did you ever measured the intake and outtake timings with malossi cam?

PS: the engine is clean because it is new

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Old 03-06-2009, 15:30   #75 (permalink)
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Hi Chri$ch
I can't remember, but they are sicnificantly bigger than stock. As far as I remember all four ports in the head was ported with min. +2 mm i diameter and the seats was re-made as well.

Conserning timing. Nope didn't realy ever mesure it. But I don't think it is a good idea for a kit like yours. It needs to rew. quite high.

Are you planning to come for the SA weekend later this year?
I am looking forward to experience your creation live. It is a looker ;-)

Best regards
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Old 03-06-2009, 22:04   #76 (permalink)
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Could you please post a link to where you bought the r-setup caliper from. I cant find it anywhere
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:00   #77 (permalink)
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The R-setup caliper is the same as the stage6 caliper.



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Old 05-06-2009, 18:13   #78 (permalink)
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Ok where did you get the adapter from, i dont know if im just being dumb but i really dont see how i can make the stage 6 adapter fit onto the F36r forks. Could you post a pic of your adapter so i can see?

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Old 06-06-2009, 11:05   #79 (permalink)
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hi veLo ! ı have a runner vx 2007 and ı have all parts that you have on it with leovince exhaust and except crankshaft . my crankshaft is the original vx one but the biel mil(ı dont know the exact word in english) is short and malossi one.my question is ''can the original crank get on well with this malossi parts or do ı need to change it with malossi crank?'' ı hope that you answer my question as soon as possible because it has been 2 months that ı made it 209 and ı m afraid that something can get broken inside the engine..thanks!
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:08   #80 (permalink)
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ow ı have forgotten to say something! ..at the start ı had a scorpion exhaust same as yours..when ı changed the exhaust to leo vince the engine gained 2bhp..ı m glad if ı could help you||||to add you can add my msn oxide_dma@hotmail.com so we can help each other easily about our bikes ..thanks again..
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Old 08-06-2009, 16:49   #81 (permalink)
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Hello Velo,

i don´t know if i am at the scooter weekend. It´s ~600km distant (one way) which i must drive with my scoot

here is a soundcheck from my Derbi GP1


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Old 11-06-2009, 09:54   #82 (permalink)
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..very impressive!
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Old 11-06-2009, 17:04   #83 (permalink)
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Hello Velo,

i don´t know if i am at the scooter weekend. It´s ~600km distant (one way) which i must drive with my scoot

here is a soundcheck from my Derbi GP1

YouTube - Derbi GP1 300 (125) + Leovince SBK Soundcheck

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Hey sounds nice. How much power does it produce?

I have just rearranged an exhaust for with some much better flow.
Now I just need the ignition for it.



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Old 16-06-2009, 21:25   #84 (permalink)
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hey Velo...what you changed and you passed down from 24,5hp to about 22hp ???
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Old 18-06-2009, 19:26   #85 (permalink)
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Quite a lot have happened. So it is hard to say precise.
The egnition is fried on it so I have ordered a rotor kit for it.



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Old 19-06-2009, 22:25   #86 (permalink)
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pretty nice
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Old 19-06-2009, 22:25   #87 (permalink)
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Old 20-06-2009, 09:38   #88 (permalink)
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well done! really powerfull engine.
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Old 25-06-2009, 17:20   #89 (permalink)
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Thanks for all your compliments. I am very glad for it as well.

Some news to come.

With a tiny bit of inspiration from Chri$ch I have made an oil temp guage for mine:


This is how it looks like when it is mounted on the engine. Please notice the disk cooler :-D
It is a moto-master flame disk with Malossi MHR sinter race pads.

A view of the cookpit- Laptimer is fully removeable.


Finally this is what it looks like right now.

I am gooing to mount HPI internal rotor ignition for it and I am going to make my own wireing harness for it.
By doing so I can keep all the guages and functions of the warning lights.
Plan is allso that I am going to make a butten for the cooling fan. For when I am making burnouts or in very hot days/tracks

Update follows



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Old 19-07-2009, 23:56   #90 (permalink)
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Hello,

My English is average sorry

fantastic scooter i have question

My Scooter is Gilera Runner VX 125/210 with

Malossi 210
Malossi Multivar 2000
Scorpion Exhaust
Gas Box Malossi


v-max is the same only 115 km/h (GPS), Runner have lock on Module? and what trasmition do you have? and what Roller ? 9g? or 12?g(please give link to shop)

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